Klisch, Stephen  

What else is there to say? Fine person, nothing interesting. Class was meh... Blah, blah, blah... Fine person.

Klisch was very straighforward in his lecture. He writes really clearly, which is important for ppl like me, who tend to pick up teachers' handwriting. The tests were really easy...right off the homework, which I didn't really do. Do the homework if you can. The class really isn't that hard, it just takes time. I think that he prepared the class just fine for the common final. Honestly, my grade doesn't reflect how he tought or what I learned. I understood the material fairly well. When I took the class again, I never paid attention and still got an A. Oh, he graded on a bell curve, which really sucked for ppl who did well.

Well, not only is this guy a spitting image of the xboyfriend in meet the parents (played by owen wilson) but this guy sucks ass. He has no idea how to clearly explain a problem and when you go his office hours he sits there with a blank look on his face while trying to understand why you don't understand something. He basically expects you to understand his material the first time, or have fun catching up. His grading is ruthless!!! You will consistently score 2's or 3's out of 10 on his quizes if you make a minor minor mistake. Bascially, avoid this dumbass, he's ridiculously hard, fast teaching and really a dumb blonde stuck in a surfer's body.

i agree with the previous evaluation 100%. i went into the final with a solid B, and came out with a C. his midterms are way too easy, and i felt completely unprepared for the common final. he is a nice guy who wants to help students learn, but he needs to rethink how he tests the material.

Lectures are relevant and filled with example problems. Homework is collected once per week and all the problems are doable. He gave 2 midterms each consisting of one (easier) homework problem, one in-class example, and one example from the book. The midterms are very simple. They do not, however, do anything to prepare you for the common final

He really emphasizes vector notation, which pays off in this class. Yeah the midterms are pretty easy, but he does assign alot of tough homework problems. If you do all the homework, and learn the problems you missed from his solutions (outside his office), then the midterms will be easy and even the final won't be that bad. Great examples in his lectures.

Prof. Klisch surfs too much.

I liked Klisch. He is real helpful in his office hours and I liked the way he lectured. He gives you all the material you need in lecture so you really don't need to read the text, except to right down the homework. My only objection is I went into the final with a nice "B" and got a 93% or 94% on the Final and he still didn't give me an "A" in the class. Anyway, he's a good guy and if you do your homework and go to class you'll come out of the class knowing the material fairly painlessly.

To all those people thinking that Dr. Klisch's tests are easy I have news!! They will no longer be like that! He decided he was gonna change the way he does things due to what he saw about himself on this very page!! So to all those people who ruined it for everyone else "thanks a lot!!!" You definitely need to learn how to keep your mouths shut!! As far as him as a teacher I should say that he was ok. The only problem I had with this class was due to the unified final exam which for no reason whatsoever the department gives to all the sections for this course. I think this final exam is an outrage!! Not only because it is almost impossible (I'm not exagerating), but because it fails to aknowledge the great abysmal differences in which every section is taught (we all know that teachers emphasize on different things and they teach with different styles). I really think that policy should not exist for this class! But it should be up to future students to fight against it!! I hope someone one day will take the initiative to let his/her voice be heard!!

Steve is very full of himself. I was out sick for three weeks and started the quarter with a car accident caused by a drunk driver, and he had the nerve to tell me that he has people "begging him to get into his section" and there were people like me who screw it up for those people. I've got news for you Klisch, I registered for the course, I can fuck it up if I want. After all this, he refused to let me withdraw from the course (I guess as punishment) so I had to take an F. Also, screw his "easy tests". The man assigns way to much homework, so we had to sort through about fifty or sixty problems to cover 33% of the midterms. Additionally, like every other ME professor, Klisch's example problems were nothing like the homework. Maybe that will change with the new text book by miriam, instead of pytel. Klisch is not the dream professor, people.

This guy is a f#cking tool!!!!

this guy is an outstanding lecture. i really like the way he puts his notes online. it helps alot so i don't really have to go to class. he has a good sense of humor too, which allows students to talk to him face to face. one time, i accidentally called him a baboon. i dont remember what exactly happened next, but it sounded like he barked out like a dog. strange sense of humor, but i'll take it.

He was hard but duable. The weekely quizes in the beginning are really tough and then get somewhat easier after everyone has failed 4-5 of them. His grading system on the quizes is A,C,F. if you even mess up on one minus sign you get a C. This really makes you work hard and try to learn the material. Don't slack off for a second. There is homework due every day which makes it a little bit easier to study for the quizes because they are either directely from the lecture or directely from the homework. I liked him a lot but I can see how others might think he is really dificult. The Common final at the end was relatively easy because all the work that this guy makes you do really prepares you for it. He is tough but I don't think you will find anyone else that isn't for this kind of material. TAKE HIM> be prepared. get just a little bit nervous.

prof. klisch is a good guy, and means well, but he hasnt taught regular dynamics for 7 years, and assumes his students know the material like the back of their hands. Horrible teacher... grades way too hard. I received half credit on a problem on an exam due to having a correct MAD, but missed the minus sign in the equation. Dont take him. You wont miss anything.

Let\'s be honest, Klish isn\'t the easiest teacher. For the first midterm, he had two multiple-choice questions that were worth 20 points each (out of a total of 100 for the midterm). He took half of my points off one of the problems because I messed up a minus sign for non-conservative forces. However, for the second midterm he gave me half points on a problem that I flat out didn\'t do just because I had the right equations and good free-body and MA diagrams. During lecture he\'s really helpful though, and he always makes sure that you understand if you take the initiative to ask him things during class. His midterms really help prepare you for the final, which is good because it\'s a tough one. TLDR: He\'ll be really helpful and prepare you for the final, just don\'t expect A\'s on the midterms.

I took Klisch as my 2nd attempt for Dynamics. I had Brian Self the quarter before, but had to withdraw due to an injury in the 8th week (which sucks because I was doing well in Self's class). In comparison, I liked Self a lot better. His class was a lot more involved, and he put a lot more time into it. Self did a lot more examples, and posted a bunch on Blackboard that was very helpful. Klisch was lazy compared to Self. He didn't have Bb set up at all. Klisch went very slowly, which can be good, I guess, but I feel that for dynamics, the more examples the better, and at Klisch's speed, we only did ~1 example per class. Every class he would take roll (even though he said it didn't affect your grade). This would waste 5-10 minutes every class. Homework was alright (takes a long time, like any mechanics class). The first midterm was a breeze, the 2nd was a bitch. I wouldn't recommend him, but he's not that bad, I guess. I just wish he used Blackboard and didn't go so slow in lecture.

This is a very hard class but Klisch is a great professor for it. His policies are pretty laid back, but if you try to take the shortcuts by not coming to class it will be tough to learn it on your own. The midterms are graded very hard and the problems are hard, but problems you've done in the past on a homework or similar to a problem from lecture. That said, if you don't do well on the midterms, the final is a much bigger influence on your grade so focus extra hard for it. Klisch has some really cool industry experience examples that he would occasionally talk about, and he really likes talking about mountain biking and surfing. Viewing solutions to homework is a pain in the ass (and he admits it) because he posts it outside his office door which is in a section of the building that is locked after hours. Therefore you have to come to his office during the day and take pictures with your cell phone and he refuses to post them on blackboard for some reason.

I have not seen and may not see as good an engineering professor as Klisch ever again. Every class, he would work out one or two problems very slowly. This is much better than doing many problems without understanding anything. At first the "rigorous vector approach" we used was annoying, but toward the end of class it became clear that that was the best way. He stops often in class to tell stories and stuff like that which I used to hate, because it seemed like a huge waste of time. But looking back, I think I remember a lot more because I was paying attention. Take the class seriously, but don't kill yourself. I spent about 4 hours per homework assignment (each assignment due every other lecture M/F/W/M/F/W....) and an extra hour studying every week.A

Professor Klisch was certainly a character. I didn't like that he spent the first 15 minutes of class taking roll. I thought it was a nice try for him to get to know us but I think he could have used that time doing an extra example instead. I also felt he was a bit rude sometimes when students had relevant questions. He made me feel like an idiot for asking questions sometimes. The break down for his class: homework 10%, exam 1 15%, exam 2 20%, exam 3 25%, and final 30%. Word of advice, do all your homework in vector notation! Even if you have the correct answer you will get a 2 out of 10 for not putting it in vector notation.

I really enjoyed taking dynamics with Klisch. The majority of class time is spent working step by step through problems. I thought his midterms were all fair, maybe even easy, and I definitely felt prepared for the common final. Only negative I can think of is that he usually spends the first 10 minutes of class taking roll and BSing. My advice: Do everything in vector notation, don't pay too much attention to the book's way of doing things, do every homework assignment, and go to office hours (he's super helpful there).

He likes to take role to get to learn his students' names because he feels it "creates a more conducive learning environment." Pretty bogus. It is possible to learn students' names and show that you care about them without taking role every day and wasting valuable class time (it adds up, you know). Besides, how many of his students will he ever see again? Klisch came off as VERY prideful with this but he is a decent professor at best. If you take him, then hopefully he won't be teaching four sections. Office hours were always a bitch. No quizzes. Homework out of the book. Three midterms. And a final. Glhf.

Klisch was awesome. He stopped taking roll like the other reviews said, and just learned everyones name by getting them involved in lecture and asking us questions. He has a lot of cool experience using dynamics with bodies (car crash tests, baseball pitching tests, etc.) so he keeps the class interesting. Does a ton of examples which was nice and really helpful. Would definitely recommend him. Laid back and very understanding. Super helpful in office hours as well.

Kilsch is my favorite professor so far at Cal Poly. He is a genuinely caring professor and he's absolutely hilarious. I loved that he wanted to learn all of our names, it made lectures really fun and interactive and I honestly looked forward to them. The midterms were super easy if you did the homework and Klisch is always willing to explain concepts you don't understand and finds new and creative ways to do this. A+ professor-take Klisch before you graduate if you can.

Klisch made a challenging class a very enjoyable experience. Each class, he slowly went through an example or two from start to finish, not skipping any steps. At times, the homework was a little much, but the several problems he wrote himself were very helpful to do. He understood the purpose of dynamics in the grand scheme of things, and he often showed us some cool applications. Overall, Klisch makes the class tough but fair, and theres no need to stress to much.

Klisch is a great guy, he generally cares about whether his students learn the material. One word of advice is that his office hours are packed. He should get a bigger office, but really helpful in office hours, even when he makes you right it on the whiteboard. Take this guy if you can.

2 midterms, hw due every week (typ mondays), solutions posted on board-- standard fare for ME professors but different in that he DOES pay attention to students concerns regarding questions and difficulties with the material. When it comes to lecturing on the board, he writes FAST and it gets a bit confusing at times which variable ended up where, but if you take the time to ask him after class or during his office hours he's more than willing to take his time to explain. Keep in mind, he'll throw a curve ball once in a good while on a test just to shake things up, but all in all, if you understand what's happening, you should do fine. Overall, not a bad professor.

I was fortuanate enough to have Dr. Klisch for ME 211/212/326. I thought he was such a great professor I didn't even want to rate him until I finished these classes so I would have a better shot at getting him again. The only down side to his teaching is the baisicly mandatory office hours. However, if you go you will find he truly cares about your understanding of the material. If you try the HW then go to his office hours you will get it. He gave a lot of HW in 211/212 but eased up in 326. It took awhile but payed off during the tests. His lecture style is fast paced but very organized. His notes are easy to study from and contain many derivations that make understanding the bigger picture possible. The concepts are not the easisest things to understand themselves. His tests are straight foreword, you need to work fast but can finish, typically 3 problems. I thought they were a bit easier than the common finals in 211/212 so be prepared. If you take Klisch you will not get a walk in the park, but you will get a solid base in the class and in my opinion the best professor at poly. Conclusion:TAKE HIM

some of you people need to grow up and realize that teachers aren't going to hand you an A in ME classes. I worked my ass off in this class because it's pretty difficult material. klisch assigns a lot of homework because you need to do a lot of homework to learn the concepts (i don't care who you take, it's going to take work). i had some trouble following his lectures from time to time, but steve is the most helpful professor i've ever had in office hours. hopefully by now you know that mechanical engineering at cal poly isn't going to be easy, so work hard and get to know klisch, and you will be happy you took him.

Klisch is an ok teacher. He teaches ME326 lecture with a bunch of proofs and a scant few examples, which sometimes works and is sometimes over the students' heads. He gave 2 midterms and a final. One midterm was very difficult, the other was rather easy, and the final wasn't very hard. Homework is generally light, but I'm comparing him to Locascio. The Simulink Lab part requires a lot of self-teaching. I already knew Simulink when I took this class, but I think I would have been lost if I didn't. The lab requires a lot of time-consuming reports, so beware. Overall, I would take Klisch again.

While others are very quick to disagree with me, I found some of his non-dynamics stories interesting. However, Klisch can sometimes seem a bit too full of himself to me. His almost mandatory office hours are annoying, and he absolutely cannot make any extra ones if you need extra help or miss his. And when you can make it, it's so packed that it's helpless to be there since he can only focus on one thing at a time. BUT, he is easy. Well, it took a lot of work, but I thought 212 (with Murray) was harder. His tests were on the level of easier homework problems, and the averages were typically pretty high. We'll see how homework changes now, though, since he got pissed at everyone having the answer key to Meriam's problems. Oh, Simulink isn't too bad, but it is more out-of-class work. Choose your partner wisely.

His lectures are clear and he generally does quite a few examples. I didn't go to office hours much, but when I did it was for lab and the place was packed. We had 2 midterms and a final, all of which were similiar to the homework and straight foward if you reviewed the homework. Our test averages were extremely high... one was like 90%. The lab is a pain in the ass and I guarantee you will not finish it in the alotted hour. We started off with homework out of the Meriam Dymnamics book, but then Klisch found out everyone had the solutions to the problems, so towards the end he made up his own assignments based off his old tests. These questions were hard and the only way to check your answers was to go to office hours because he wouldn't post them on the board. If your choices for ME 326 are Rossman or Klisch, you can't lose becuase both do an excellent job explaining the material.

klisch-toris is the biggest douche' bag in the universe....

Professor Klisch is a very good instructor. He is very interested in the material and is good at passing that on to his students. His tests are pretty difficult but he doesn't really throw any curve-balls. Homework is assigned from another source than our text book. The final (40%) is composed of 3 questions and you are given three hours so it is not a rushed final but it is very complete. Two midterms make 20 percent each, 10% homework and the other ten is due to a lab in simulink.

Klisch will teach you the material if you're want to learn it. He knows his stuff and you will too if you put in any time. He is difficult, but doable. Great professor if you'll ever need the material again - which most MEs will!

Klisch is one of my favorite ME proffesors so far. He really works hard to teach his students and takes an extra effort to learn everyones name the first few weeks of class (How many prof. do that??). His office hours are always packed with students but he does his best to help out everyone. He uses some good real life examples that make the class more intersting. He's a stiff grader and make you work hard throughout the quarter, but its works in your favor because you really understand the material. Take Klisch for any class you can.

When I first saw I got a 'C' I said 'F you Klisch', which is what you want to say to him most of the time. But then I got over it and remembered how well I learned the material. If you're interested in mechanics, and really want to know it well, take Klisch. It's not an easy 'A' but if you go to class and do the homework, you're golden.

If you like skating by, don't take Klisch. If you like actually learning something, he's one of the best out there. Be prepared to bust your hump the whole quarter, but boy did I learn a lot.

Klisch is one of the better professors in the ME dept. Looks like I

Klisch is a great professor. He's a smart guy that is painfully organized. He gives tough tests and makes you earn your points. He's a bit like LoCascio, thorough lecturer, tough grader, and if you pass his class you know your stuff. I had to take the class again and got stuck with Birdsong. Birdsong made me appreciate Klisch's greatness.

Really good teacher. He definitely did an excellent job of conveying what the equations exactly mean and how to use them. The first half of this class is ME 212 all over again but in vector notation. My teacher for 212 taught us in vector notation to begin with so it was basically a 5 week long review session. The midterms were relatively easy, but the final was a doozie! My only complaint about Klisch is that I felt he did not provide enough assistance/ help with the MATLAB portion of the class. It almost seemed like he was trying to keep things a big secret when it came to certain code commands that were critical to complete the program. However, it sounds like the other 326 professors are the same, so maybe it is a philosophy they all share. Also, we only did MATLAB for 7 weeks definitely a HUGE plus). If you have the chance to take him for ME 326 I would really recommend it. I learned a lot and enjoyed almost every lecture.

Klisch= Ass. He was the least helpful instructor. Especially when it came to matlab. He would pretend that you were the stupid one when in fact hes the dumb one. Ask him how to code a solution and you get this response... Research it and read about how to do it.... ok that helps a lot. Oh and when you goto his office hours and you ask him if you did the problem right hell say yes and then when you get it back turns out you did everything completely wrong and will get a D on the assignment. Awesome Klisch. What a douche. Also he is a liar. Dont let him think youre passing notes or he'll accuse you of cheating and fail you...until you take it to the fairness board where he'll admit he was full of shit.

On day one, Klisch comes off as a hardass. As the Quarter progressed, everyone soon finds out that he's not a hardass. He really wants to help his students succeed. Intermediate Dynamics is no walk in the park, especially with MATLAB, but Klisch has good examples and random stories, which helps him relate to his students. I went to his office hours once before the final and he was very helpful. As for the course itself, there are two written midterms, a Matlab Midterm, and a cumulative final for a total of four exams. He doesn't require that you turn in the homework, but if you don't he'll definitely notice, which doesn't look good in the end. He is one of the very few professors I've had where he actually learned everyone's name in the class. I had Prof Birdsong for a week (trying to crash ME 326) last quarter and I didn't get in. Luckily this quarter I was able to take Klisch. Take Klisch over Birsong...that's a no-brainer... and do the homework otherwise you're screwed.

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all this is a hard class, and Klisch expects you to study the material before coming to class. Because of this he gives "pop" quizes about once a week on the reading. Even if you do the reading, don't expect to get full credit, the quizes are very random at times but did get more fair towards the end of the quarter. I think that Klisch was one of the best lectures I've had so far, he is very proficient in the material and enjoys teaching it. If you pay attention in lecture, you should do fine in the class. The homework load was pretty intense at times but DIRECTLY prepared you for the tests, which were also pretty fair. If you do all of the homework and understand it you should have no problem on the test. This is not a class where you can get by with just the solution manual, which by the way is easily obtainable, you have to study. If you put the effort into this class, participate and ask questions when something is unclear, he will clear your confusion up and truely try to help you learn the material. labs were pretty fun as you get to design different products based on the knowledge you learned in class...ie: a engine hoist for his toyota pickup and rock climbing cams. Overall, Klisch was a great teacher and I would take a class from him again.

You'll get your money's worth. If you think you're hot $#it then you should definitely take Klisch. If you don't care about the class and would rather plug and chug on your calculator or if you rely on a solutions manual to do your homework, take someone else.

Klisch literally believes that he is God's gift to the world. I failed design the quarter before so I pretty much knew what was going on in the class. I got a 75 on the first midterm and a 98 on the second, he doesn't grade HW and everyone had a 80-90 in the lab. I walked out of the final feeling confident that I had done well on it and he gave me a C in the class. I only went to office hours once I think, maybe he resented that, but he was not very helpful and I had already taken the class and I had the solutions manual so I didn't really need to go...I do think that he would be good for Biomechanics though, I took it with Self who was pretty good but Klisch would probably be better...

Steve is a wussy pussy.

Klisch's life revolves around biomechanics and tissue engineering, so be ready to take this class seriously. He is definitely an expert on the subject and can relate a lot of the material to real world examples. You will get a lot out of the class, but there is a downside. Klish lives in la-la land. He loves talking about FEA models and a lot of theoretical crap, but how much of this stuff is useful/practical? Probably not very much, unless you want to do research and live your life like Klisch. At the end of the class he invited us to some kid's thesis on an FEA model of articular cartilage. Wow. That kid is going to have a tough time in the real world. While interning at medical device companies, I have definitely learned how impractical most of this FEA / theoretical crap is. You're going to have to test most of your ideas anyway...

He's full of shit. And he's insane. This guy does not care about his students ...but you will learn a lot from him.

If he acts the same in non ME-402 classes as he does in ME 402, then I can see why people won't like him but that doesn't take away from his teaching ability and compassion for his students learning. I say this because his life revolves around Bio-mechanics (said below but that guy is clueless/ignorant in his post) and if you take him for ME 212/326/328 and have no interest in his field, you probably will get sick of him by week 4, but not enough to not take him. POSITIVES: Dr. Klisch is a genius and it really shows in ME 402 (Bio-mechanics)- this class is awesome, if you want to go into anything related to the BMED world than take this class, he is a boss. If you're looking for a tech elective because ME 404/441/444 filled up, then still take this class. He is an expert at Bio-mechanics and conveys the material very well. I looked forward to going to every lecture and almost always learned something cool/applicable. The labs are really fun and you learn a lot as well; he is great in lab. NEGATIVES: His wording ability for homework, and more importantly, the midterm, is very poor. I thought I aced the midterm but got a C because his problem wording was so bad, there was no way to correctly interpret what he wanted for one of the problems. The other negative thing is office hours, he seems to be in a different zone when you approach him there and it's hard to get actual help on the hw from him; luckily the hw is not graded (kind of like end-quarter extra credit help) and if you work with groups it's not unbearable, but it is time consuming. SUMMARY: Other than his office hours demeanor and occasional grammar/syntax mishaps, he is a very good professor who is helpful in class/lab and knows the material very well and presents it clearly to students. I hope to take him for a 500 level course next year.

This class is legit!! and Klisch is awesome for it. Take Klisch for ME 402. I bet he'd be good for Graduate courses too.

Klisch knows Continuum Mechanics. I\'d never even heard of him until ME 501, but he\'s great for this at least. I\'d take about 5 pages of notes for each one hour lecture. We had homework assignments once a week that weren\'t graded (he said he\'d look at them at the end of the quarter if we were close to the next-higher grade). The class averages for the midterms were... Let\'s back up. As he was about to hand back the first midterm, he stopped and said \"Everyone, this material is really hard, so don\'t feel dumb if you haven\'t picked it up by now\" The class average was in the low 50% for a room full of grad students. He\'s really passionate about the continuum mechanics and it definitely helps because it\'s really esoteric shit. He\'d finish lecturing early some days and just talk about the material\'s applications to his research, or to some vexing problem in biomechanics. I\'m glad I took him.

ME 501 is one of the hardest classes in the ME program, and it's not a subject that I have an especially strong background in. However, Klisch did an excellent job teaching very difficult material. Unlike most undergrad ME courses, ME 501 seems more like a math class without a lot of practical applications, but Klisch took the time to tie the material into some of the more practical biomedical applications that he's been working on - which really helps when sometimes you get lost in a sea of equations. I also liked the way he typed up the course notes for us to print out, leaving spaces to fill out key equations/derivations in class (which he would do on his iPad). That said, the homework is *a lot* of work - rightfully so, because that's the only way to grasp the material. I scored a little below average on both of the tests, then studied like crazy for the final exam and managed to get a B. I think the tests and final were fair and on par with the homework difficulty (without being simply a rehash of the same problems). If you're a grad student, most likely you'll want/need to take this class, so be prepared for a challenge, and on the plus side you'll learn the material very well with Klisch.

His bright demeanor and helpfulness in office hours was offset by his oversimplification of complicated material to the point where one lost the elegance of the continuum mechanics approach itself. One 40-point problem on a test was effectively finding the weight of a square right prism as a function of the dimensions and density--not difficult stuff. Klisch had a tough time gauging the class' proficiency with aspects of the material throughout the entire quarter: some easy topics were explained in excruciating detail whereas more complicated topics were skimmed over or presented on fully-typed notes, thus depriving us of the ability to follow along with the lecture. This contributed to a serious pacing issue: Klisch liked to spend time taking attendance and telling stories each class, but he took a little too much time doing both and the quality of the lecture suffered as a result. He had a hard time answering specific questions in class but thankfully fared better in his office. Dr. Klisch insisted on only posting his homework solutions outside his office lest the answers be distributed to future classes more easily. In that sense, I felt he treated us more like sophomore dynamics students than graduate students. Ironically, it's appropriate because this class was more or less CE 204 and 207 presented in a radically different way. The practical analogs of the continuum mechanics approach could be hard to identify at times, but doing so made the process easier. I guess the bottom line is that Dr. Klisch wasn't a terrible teacher, but you shouldn't be excited to have him, either.

This class is not easy. I think he could have presented the material more clearly. Took him a month to explain inditial notation and it took another professor one lecture. The final exam was ridiculous.

Klisch is a chill dude and makes an effort to learn everyone's name, so props to him. That being said...this class is extremely difficult. Day 1 he told us that this would be the hardest class we had ever taken and he was telling the truth. Klisch does a great job at teaching this material, but there is just not enough time in the quarter to absorb everything. Office hours are super helpful, but usually pretty crowded. Klisch is an awesome professor, but 501 is no joke. I'd recommend taking Klisch, not 501.

Steve is the Michael Jordan of continuum mechanics.